Mindflow Radio #116: Peace Reset and A Few How To's

In this day and age, we are culturally speaking super stressed out. We want calm and yet make decisions that keep us on the wheel of confusion, overwhelm and anxiety. 

This conversation is a balm to the cultural stress phenomena we find ourselves in. Please enjoy!

Transcript

Speaker 5 0:00

Welcome to Mindflow Radio.

Speaker 0:02

Mindflow Radio.

Speaker 5 0:04

She's Jai Lynn. And he's Monte. So buckle your seat belts and get ready to take a trip towards reality.

Speaker 0:14

Oh right. Happy May, 2026. Here we are.

Speaker 5 0:24

Springtime.

Speaker 0:26

Yeah. It's it's pretty beautiful. May's one of my favorite months. And it's Monty's birthday month.

Speaker 5 0:33

Oh, that's true.

Speaker 0:34

And one of my son's birthday month, too. It's a big month here.

Speaker 5 0:40

The birds are singing. The birds are singing to us.

Speaker 0:44

Yeah, the sun is warming everything up and the flowers are popping. The world is in its state of creation and its own balance of peace.

Speaker 5 1:04

Yeah, peace and turmoil. Right. Really, I mean there's both going on.

Speaker 1:09

Yeah. I guess that's what I mean by balance, you know.

Speaker 5 1:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:13

While the fox is chasing the rabbit, I don't think the rabbit's feeling very peaceful, but the fox might be.

Speaker 5 1:20

Oh, the rabbit might be too.

Speaker 1:22

Yeah, we don't know these things. We know from the outside it doesn't look that peaceful.

Speaker 5 1:28

Yeah. Yeah, it probably is not feeling peaceful, actually.

Speaker 1:33

I'm about to sacrifice my life, says the rabbit.

Speaker 5 1:36

But you're right, the predators do usually seem really peaceful when they they do their thing.

Speaker 1:43

Yeah.

Speaker 5 1:43

It seems like.

Speaker 1:44

Well, yeah, they're just doing their nature.

Speaker 5 1:47

Yeah, right.

Speaker 1:48

It's not like they're out of their nature. But then, you know, what is our nature? And and how do we choose a peaceful nature? And is it possible for humans? You know, we are the top predator.

Speaker 5 2:08

Um. Yeah, well, that's an interesting definition of humans.

Speaker 2:16

Well, I I mean, it's true, you know. I mean.

Speaker 5 2:20

I don't know. I g I guess it is true. I mean, but we we're also on the top of a list for like fighting amongst ourselves.

Speaker 2:29

Absolutely.

Speaker 5 2:30

I think that's the able to do that somewhat, for sure. For sure.

Speaker 2:35

Yeah, buying for dominant.

Speaker 5 2:37

I suppose it's just because we're vastly more technologically advanced than the animals that we our destructive powers are much greater.

Speaker 2:45

Yeah. But I think it's interesting that we were even saying, you know, uh is the predator at peace as it hunts its prey?

Speaker 4 2:53

Yeah.

Speaker 2:54

You know, and and I feel like in nature that it may be true.

Speaker 4 2:59

Yeah.

Speaker 3:00

But as humans, we I think that we're too confused to actually be peaceful in our hunt because we don't even know what we're hunting or why we're hunting. I feel like uh this unknowing is is being used to the advantage of propaganda and uh being able to bend our brains into an agenda.

Speaker 5 3:27

Our corporate and governmental masters.

Speaker 3:30

Yeah.

Speaker 5 3:31

Perhaps.

Speaker 3:32

Which, you know, that they're probably the ultimate predators. Well, I don't know. You know, who's top dog is really maybe the question.

Speaker 5 3:41

Well, right. Well, the people who probably print the money, I would imagine.

Speaker 3:46

Yeah, I mean, we really just don't know. Yeah. So I mean, that brings to to me the question of if our life, each of us individually, all of you listeners out there, if your life, if our life is actually fairly peaceful, we're not being hunted, yeah, can we cultivate the peace that would ripple out and affect those who are the top dog?

Speaker 5 4:22

Well, yeah, I mean, that's a question of the collective consciousness, really. Right. I think. And yeah, we can absolutely absolutely we whether we know it or not, we're affecting the collective consciousness.

Speaker 4 4:36

Okay.

Speaker 5 4:36

I could be like freaking out, mad, throwing things, yelling, screaming, and then that vibration is going out into the collective, and that might be reaching the top dog. Right.

Speaker 4:50

I mean, but yeah, but feeling it.

Speaker 5 4:52

Even the top dogs, they they have kids, and you know, who knows, you know, where that leads. And if I can be really peaceful and um centered and kind of in harmony with the Tao, then that energy can also reach all of us. Right. I mean, we're we're really essentially all in it together. It's kind of the collective consciousness really rules the roost. Yeah.

Speaker 5:20

Not some like individual, yeah. Collective consciousness. I absolutely agree.

Speaker 5 5:26

Right. So we we have a actually a bigger say than we realize as to, you know, the evolution of our culture, the evolution of humanity. I mean, it it does start just individually within our own minds.

Speaker 5:41

And well, and hugely a part of this was uh astrological events that happened in April, that according to some astrologers are saying that, you know, in 200 years, as humans evolve, we'll but we'll look back at April 2026 as the turning point. And what does that mean while we're in it? You know, the hunters and gatherers they couldn't imagine metropolis, so we can't truly imagine what's coming. Yeah, the next stage, but we can choose our energy and how we respond to the changes that are happening, and not everyone lives in a peaceful situation. So I'm not saying everyone gets to even choose peace. I'm saying for those of us who actually have a peaceful scenario, rather than aligning ourselves with those who don't get to choose peace, yeah, we can choose peace to send that vibration of possibility out to those who can't experience that right now.

Speaker 5 6:59

That's an excellent point. I think that we have the agency to choose, some of us, right, if our lives are fairly peaceful and we're not, you know, if not stuck in a trench in a war or something where we we have no choice at that point.

Speaker 1 7:17

Right.

Speaker 5 7:17

But for us, for me, I can speak for myself, I do have the choice of you know, what kind of energy do I want to hook into and amplify? And for me, a lot of the choice comes down to my behaviors too. If I spend a lot of time scrolling, for example, then my mind becomes less peaceful and I become agitated and upset and dull. I could become scared, dull.

Speaker 7:47

Well, I guess it depends on your algorithm.

Speaker 5 7:50

Well, I don't I don't get scared from mine because I'm watching puppies and kittens and but dull is like kind of the same as or it's aligned with depression and yes, depression's aligned with anxiety, I would say. And so it all it's it's like a lower frequency, certainly it's like a guarantee for myself. If I spend, let's say, over 15 minutes scrolling, my mind is just vastly affected in a negative way, yeah, typically almost almost guaranteed, but I still do it, you know. If I do less of it, I do less of it, I take breaks. That's one way I create more peace in my mind is I go on media fasts, yeah, where I just refuse to to look at any of that stuff or listen to it. I mean, and that's something I've been doing for over 15 years now. Nice, yeah. And it looks a lot different now than it did 15 years ago, though. For me, for me, 15 years ago, it was just like, oh well, don't listen to MPR and don't you know stay away. That was like my main media addiction, probably, because I was driving around a lot. Oh yeah, but then I yeah, and I'll eventually kick that habit altogether, the the news radio thing, and um, but now it's the screen.

Speaker 9:21

I have well, I I'm sure most of us who have smartphones have the ability to see how many times you picked up your phone that day. And I have an average of 75 times a day. And I think that's really trippy because I get a dopamine hit, and we all do, just from seeing the screen. And I have been known to just look at my phone simply to look at my phone. Oh yeah, and it is an addiction, and it is a a dopamine hit, and yeah, we're really dealing with um mass cultural addiction that we don't even understand at this point. We don't truly, you know, there's some people who uh adhere to specific rules on how often their kids can look at a screen or something like that. You know, I would say in this area, the Waldorf school community definitely does their best to reduce their kids' screen time.

Speaker 4 10:31

Yeah.

Speaker 10:32

But for the rest of our culture, it's um definitely a challenge. And we we actually don't know what it's gonna do.

Speaker 5 10:42

We I did Well, we know some of the things.

Speaker 10:45

I did find a study uh about schools and school testing and how school testing has become obvious that uh the computers in schools are actually reducing intelligence. And I think that is in itself is hugely interesting.

Speaker 5 11:09

Well, I mean it's a that's a complex statement just from the perspective of what is intelligence. Well, and and test scores. Well, right, but nowadays with the AI coming on so strong, yep, I mean, maybe our intelligence needs to go in a different direction rather than like, okay, I can really figure out a complex math problem because AI can do that easily.

Speaker 11:38

That's hardly what is going on in grade school, you know.

Speaker 5 11:41

I mean, grade school is more kind of thing, you know, mem memorizing, you know, spelling. That's true. I mean how important is that stuff? I'm not saying it's not important, I'm saying it just we we need to take a take a hard look at it and understand that perhaps down the road intelligence is going to be viewed as you know, uh different measurement, yeah, different criteria as to what is intelligence. And I I for me, I feel most intelligent when I seem to be like in alignment with the realization that um we're all just confused uh god beings. You know, we all we all have the spark of the Tao within us, all of us, I believe. And that's the good news. The bad news is we're all confused and we act accordingly. And but to me, when I when I'm really in that zone of understanding, I think my level of intelligence is greater than if I am my mind is ruminating about politics or or money or sports or you know, whatever the old school kind of ruminations what you're saying is that from what I understand, called emotional quotient.

Speaker 13:08

Like emotional intelligence, yeah, and uh so and I absolutely agree, you know, and that's something that I'd say our culture specifically suffers from a lack of emotional intelligence.

Speaker 5 13:25

That's a great point that it's possibly that emotional intelligence might be the most important component of intelligence in the future.

Speaker 13:34

Yeah, in the future, that might be how we're being asked and called to develop at this time.

Speaker 5 13:41

Yeah, because if we don't have it, then we're in real trouble. Because with the the onset of just all this technology, it's coming on so fast that amplifies you know our ability to destroy ourselves or to help ourselves. It amplifies both. We can like absolutely we could ride this wave and just get all our electricity from the sun, and everybody could be eating organic food, you know, if we use the intelligence from an in an emotionally mature way, right?

Speaker 14:17

But if we're emotionally immature, or caught up in the the criteria of the powers that be, and they aren't emotionally mature. Well, right, it just yeah, they're part of the human collective, and if they're trying to just be rich, and then you know, right making sure everybody's okay is not a part of that agenda, right?

Speaker 5 14:38

And that that's that's their prerogative, I guess, for some of them. And I think each of us is just as important. I don't like calling the powers that be, they only have power over me if I really buy into their stuff. If I really like the power, like the powers that be, you could say somebody who owns like the a cell phone, like Apple. You know, because they they sure don't and if I don't if I use the Apple phone as a tool rather than addiction, if I use it rather than it using me, then the powers that be don't have necessarily agreed effect.

Speaker 15:22

And that in itself is huge because what you're really pointing out is how does one have the internal control to be able to recognize the use as a tool or the use as an addiction, and how do we culturally begin to turn towards using it as a tool instead of just passing time with it?

Speaker 5 15:49

Yeah, right. Absolutely, you know, and I think a lot of it comes down to just the emotional maturity. You know, as we emotionally mature, then we're just much more solid, we're more resilient, we're more balanced, we have a clearer mind. Just think of you know, a mature person, sure, right? And you think a relative to a toddler, you know, and the toddler is you know, it doesn't get it his his or her way. What does the toddler do? The toddler throws a fit. I don't I don't accept this, you know.

Speaker 16:30

You know, just I want ice cream before bed. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 16:35

Yeah, right, right. And emotionally, I mean, I think a lot of us, including myself, can be in that, you know, toddler place of just lacking acceptance. I don't accept this. Yeah, you know, and it's like a kind of a toddler perspective when you throw a fit over it.

Speaker 16:54

I feel this is twofold. Um, because uh how fast things are going right now, it's like a respectful protocol professionally is changing, you know. Um, because we carry our phones on us on us at all times, some of us see respectful protocol as returning, responding ASAP, which could be to the detriment of ourself. Whereas some professional ways are more like I'll get back to you when I'm ready. And and there's so there's this strange place where we are at the moment where um it's like a division of how to respond.

Speaker 5 17:47

Yeah.

Speaker 17:48

And I'm I'm finding that very interesting, just just witnessing it, not that one is good or one is bad, yeah, but I know for myself I am a people pleaser, and I tend to professionally and personally get back to people ASAP, and if I don't, then I feel guilt.

Speaker 5 18:09

Right. But that part of that is the the addiction, though.

unknown 18:14

Right.

Speaker 5 18:15

I mean, that's the thing. We can we can we can pretend it's just my addiction.

Speaker 18:20

I love it, that's great.

Speaker 5 18:22

I mean, it just it makes me feel like a little kid when like my phone buzzes, and then I feel like just compulsively I grab it. Yeah, and what you know, and just all that.

Speaker 18:35

Oh, that's so funny.

Speaker 5 18:37

I mean, and sometimes, yeah, I'm waiting for an important phone call or an important text. So that's like a different case scenario, but a lot of the time, I just like and it's like, oh, and you just feel my I feel without even thinking, I feel my hand moving towards the phone. Absolutely, you know, I'm like conditioned. Yeah, I'm conditioned. And at that point, at that point, it's using me. You know, it the system that is so yeah, the corporate, you know, whatever system of phones and internet and all that is using me, but I know that if I can just get a handle on it, that I am using it then for my benefit and for the benefit of ideally all of humanity if I'm on the right path.

Speaker 19:22

So, what I'm hearing you say is that there the emotional maturity that we are moving towards or can move towards if we want a peaceful world, is to take um time not to look at the phone. And that's what I'm trying to do these days, you know. But it's hard when I have friends all over the world and their a.m. is my PM. And you know, it's like I would like to implement uh, you know, after 5 p.m. I don't look at my phone, but being a global friend is kind of hard to for me again as a people pleaser, I want to engage with my friends.

Speaker 5 20:19

Yeah, I mean I'm a phone addict too, I'm not gonna deny it, you know. Right. I'm not pointing the finger, but I do push back against it. I mean, in your scenario, you could say, okay, I'm gonna give myself 10 minutes at night to open the phone. You know, I mean, that would that be one possible solution.

Speaker 20:38

Yeah, so to give myself breaks. Because I, you know, when I looked at my phone, and I've been realizing this over the last few weeks, that I have an average of 75 times a day looking at my phone, and I'm just like, dang, I need to get a grip on this.

Speaker 5 20:54

No, it just makes me feel when I when I when I'm just really in that in that pocket of like being like active addiction for the phone.

Speaker 21:04

Which is awesome.

Speaker 5 21:05

Like every time, every time I um like my mind's a little upset, I want to like be scrolling because it it soothes, it soothes my mind temporarily until I see something disturbing or learn some some disturbing news or just see some like uh you know, just how people can be just so malevolent to each other. It's it's really incredible, you know, on the internet in particular, you know. But I think what what I'm seeing when I see people being malevolent towards each other with all the name calling and all this and that. I feel like in some ways they're just um showing, showing how they talk to themselves.

Speaker 21:50

Right?

Speaker 5 21:51

You know, there's that because uh in in in in real life, people don't talk to each other that way either, you know.

Speaker 21:57

It's well, they can.

Speaker 5 21:59

They can. But typically no.

Speaker 22:01

Right. They don't have the same amount of courage hiding front behind the screen.

Speaker 5 22:05

Well, it's not it's maybe just like maybe less malevolence too. I mean, but you know, internally we can be as malevolent as we want to be towards ourselves. Right. And nobody knows about it, and we've kind of all been trained to be malevolent towards ourselves. You know, you make a mistake. I make a mistake, I'm beating myself up bad some of the time. I mean, I'm getting better. I'm getting better. And I'm actually I know we've talked about this a little bit, but I'm actually trying to try on the philosophy of just being benevolent towards all beings. All beings, which is really like uh an interesting philosophy to take on.

Speaker 22:48

I think you have to include yourself in that statement. Just because uh like for someone like me, being the people pleaser type, I could uh sacrifice the self at any moment to try to be kind to somebody else. And for me, it's been this strange learning of how to not sacrifice myself but also be kind.

Speaker 5 23:10

It's not about being kind though. Benevolence is more just a mindset of wishing, hoping just that everybody is going to you know move towards happiness and harmony. Everybody, everybody, everything, you know, all and it's just uh like a it's a it's a it's a philosophy and it can lead to kindness, yes, it can lead to compassion, yes, but it is like the foundational aspect of you know my view on you know the world. Essentially, yeah, and if I'm benevolent towards you know, and I and I'm not exactly there. I noticed I once I really tried to take on that philosophy, I I noticed there were like people they would come up in my mind and I'd be like, oh, I don't feel benevolently towards them. It's like, but then it turns into, well, that's my problem. Yes, right? Well, in the past it would be like, I I don't feel good about them and it's their fault. But now it's like, no, I don't feel good about them, and that's my problem. How can I shift that? Because I realize, I do realize deep down that we're all just confused. I mean, back to like Socrates, he would say, What do you say, evil? The cause of evil is ignorance, the cause of evil is just not knowing. So it's kind of like a lot of us, I believe, are just we're scrambling around and we really don't know. We don't know, you know, there a number of things, including we don't know our own power. Yeah, we don't know that we're hooking into a collective unconscious, like some vibration, it's like a radio station we can tune into, and a lot of people just habitually tune into that shadow station.

Speaker 25:08

Yeah, and it's it's simpler because we already know it. It's familiar. Well, it is familiar.

Speaker 5 25:13

I mean, and humanity has spent a lot of time in that shadow station throughout history. Yeah, but maybe now's the time we learn to tune up. We tune up into that neutral state or we tune up into that flow state. Uh and our uh survival might depend on it, actually. You know, yeah.

Speaker 25:34

So I want to pause you there because we're gonna have a musical break here, and then we can um come back in with some more specific skills on how to tune our internal stations and maybe face these uh phone addictions and turn them more into tools again. All right, so enjoy the mind is all yes, and then we're gonna go to the body.

Speaker 3 27:33

Um, um, you know, that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 34:26

You are in them. I am in low to me this moment.

Speaker 5 36:04

A little bit about that song. That was a a recording. It was basically the first time we we played that song. So it was really created. Yeah, a special moment. Yeah, the creation of that song and with the help of Jesse Ferraro.

Speaker 36:25

Yeah, so that was a beautiful expression of sometimes you just hit record because you never know what amazing things will happen. And right for us being audio artists.

Speaker 5 36:40

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that that song too is like really a lot of it is an expression of flow. So that's the importance of music. I think it helps potentially tune that radio, that mind radio we have up into like a flow state. And I remember specifically being a kid, like a kid in gr in grade school, or um sixth, fifth, fourth, seventh grade, and certain songs would come on the radio and they would just put me into flow. You know, and it was like back in those days, you hear us hear a song on the radio, it's like a special occasion. Like, yeah, you hit the jackpot, you know. And I just I've been thinking about that this week, just how it it would really certain songs would put me in a state of bliss.

Speaker 37:35

Yeah, and when you're saying that, it makes me think about how we have gotten to a place in our culture with everything at our fingertips when we want it.

Speaker 4 37:48

Yeah.

Speaker 37:48

That there is no jackpot anymore, and we're more uh our desire for I guess that dopamine hit, it just can't get fulfilled because we can have anything we want whenever we want it. As far as visually and auditorially, you know, maybe we can't have a million dollars when we want it, but we can have whatever song we want when we want it. Yeah, you know, we can have whatever TV show. Oh, right, totally. You know, like back in the day, you like you said, maybe your favorite song would come on the radio. Yeah, and then it was like, whoa, yeah, drop what you're doing and dance around.

Speaker 5 38:29

Yeah, going on vacation with my parents and uh hocus pocus by focus came on the radio, like in Tennessee or something like that. Yeah, I was like, whoa, yeah, I was just so happy, I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 38:44

That's cool, you know.

Speaker 5 38:45

My dad was cool and he would turn it up like here, not totally jam it, but yeah.

Speaker 38:51

That's awesome. Yeah, yeah. And how can we get back to that spontaneity of being able to grab a moment and see its specialness when every moment is special because we can have these things whenever we want.

Speaker 5 39:09

Well, now I think for myself, those special moments are when I'm in the flow state. Yeah, no matter what I'm doing. You know, I'm but if my mind feels elevated and light and peaceful and clear, relatively relatively clear, and then boom I mean for that that's the jackpot now.

Speaker 39:33

Yeah, for me as well. Uh my teacher, Tabia Feng, he says that Chigong teacher. Yeah, white tiger chigong. He says that getting into the flow state three times a week is really important for personal growth. And so I had to, of course, start taking note of when do I get in the flow state and what helps me get there. And that has been an interesting journey to realize that as long as I do my practice every day, I if I am in my body and not in my head, then I most likely will get in the flow state. But if I allow my mind to think while I'm doing qigong or meditation or breath work, then I do not get in the flow state.

Speaker 5 40:28

Right. Yeah, the flow is one way of looking at it. It's mostly presence.

Speaker 40:35

Right. But not and somatic presence at that. Like you can't just be present in your thoughts.

Speaker 5 40:43

No, no, you're not thinking. The the mind, the chattering mind is quiet for the most part, with with little bits of thinking. But I mean, I like thinking about it like a basketball player in the flow. You know, he's like he or she is not thinking. Okay, grab your hands together, bend your knees, and now push off and jump up, uh, you know, and that must be why I was really bad at basketball.

Speaker 41:12

I think I did do that.

Speaker 5 41:14

All right. But the yeah, they're they're they're very well rehearsed, very talented, and they're very present. And you know, they do have moments of thought like, oh, get back on defense, you know, or whatever. So there's moments of of th of thinking, but primarily just this presence, which leads to like this highly intuitive just nature where you're just moving in the right direction, and it's like it's beyond the intellect.

Speaker 41:43

Yeah, for me, I intuition is such an odd subject in itself because of my upbringing and really being uh uh strictly adhering to uh other people's rules and therefore losing my intuition and really losing trust in myself in general, and it's been 50 years of learning how to trust myself, yeah, and just now maybe kind of getting there. So intuition is just like a strange thing for me. Yeah, and um I'm the first to admit that yeah, this may be an intuitive feeling, but it could be totally wrong because I just uh yeah, I I haven't taught I haven't learned enough about how to navigate my intuition to really trust I've learned to trust what I feel, but I've learned to not trust my interpretations because they have over and over been wrong. And that kind of comes back to this idea of benevolence versus malevolence. And sometimes we think we're being benevolent, but are we really? Could our interpretation be too narrow to have the full picture and be including the universe's perspective on what's actually happening?

Speaker 5 43:16

Right. Yeah, and then like the the frequency perspective on it, right, and the shadow perspective on it. And yeah, people convince themselves all the time that they're doing the right thing and blah blah blah.

Speaker 43:29

But in some of those cases, if they're like um you know, living out of shadow, I would I would and it's hard sometimes to even be able to admit that.

Speaker 5 43:40

Well, right. Well, people don't understand it because that's like home base for a lot of humanity.

Speaker 43:45

Yeah, it was definitely home base for me for a long time. For sure. I d do want to say that I uh heard this, read this. I honestly I don't remember the source, but the idea of this blue. My mind, and we are all aware of our own conscious worth. We all believe that our consciousness is worthy and correct. And when we deem someone else wrong, right off the bat, they are going to be defensive because they see themselves as right. So to end divisiveness, we have to acknowledge that the other person thinks they're right too.

Speaker 4 44:39

Yeah.

Speaker 44:40

And who are we to think that we are the one that is right? And this is a really deep, deep subject right here. Because I was I was in a gas station the other day, and I heard these two ladies really complaining about another person. And they were like, we're right and they're wrong. And that is just how it is. And in my mind, I was like, wow, this is so interesting that I'm here for this conversation and hearing these people go over exactly what I try to not allow my mind to do. And this is a representation of how our culture really does feel the division is true and correct.

Speaker 5 45:31

Well, the feeling of rightness too tends to there's there's a level of just judgment that goes along with it.

Speaker 45:37

Of course.

Speaker 5 45:38

I'm right, you're stupid, you know, that kind of vibe.

Speaker 45:42

Yeah. And um or I'm right and you're wrong. We don't even have to add in the stuff.

Speaker 5 45:47

No, but the stupid thing goes without saying, and a lot of the time. It's just like a level of it's a different frequency of I'm right.

Speaker 45:57

So maybe yeah. So where my mind goes then is back to this idea that in 200 years, history will look back at April 2026 and go, and that's when everything shifted, began to shift. And so what is right and wrong? How does one even align themselves? Yeah, because we are at this change precipice. Yeah, we don't know, and we don't know what's right, but right we can act from a benevolent and open-minded place.

Speaker 5 46:40

Yes, I mean, and in a place of humility, just being humble. Because we don't know, we don't know, yeah, and just accepting that, and but yeah, if if you're benevolent, then that's just a huge step in the right direction. That because that I would argue is what we need to really evolve.

Speaker 47:01

Yeah, and I feel that benevolence towards self and others, and we're in the US have a huge mountain to climb because of how all of us were raised to be separate and separated. And um, maybe not everybody. I mean, Monty actually is of the lucky few who had a bunch of friends in school, and they're all still friends, and they all we all get together once a year to celebrate this friendship, you know. I mean, so there are some people who were not completely separate, but in general, we have been raised to be separate, and our culture has made us very individualistic, and uh the want for our desires to be fulfilled, our personal desires to be fulfilled, and the judgment on, well, why haven't my personal desires been filled? You know, and so there's it's a very self-uh-focused life that we live right now, and even in the midst of desiring community, that individualistic nature is being uh harnessed by propaganda and trying to get us to do what they want us to do. And I feel that the idea of benevolence kind of shoots down the individualistic nature. And and in some ways, I mean, being peaceful itself is also very difficult for the individualistic jargon and agenda. And so being peaceful and choosing how to be peaceful, such as using the virtue of benevolence to guide you through life.

Speaker 5 49:02

Maybe, yeah, like refusing to judge others, is hard.

Speaker 49:06

It's it's because it's foreign to us, it's completely foreign.

Speaker 5 49:09

Yeah, we're supposed to pick sides. Yeah, you're either on this side or you're that side, and blah blah blah. And it goes, you know, it's more than just politics, too. It's like age, it's like everything.

Speaker 49:21

There's so much money.

Speaker 5 49:22

How much money do you have? You're either on this side or that side, you know, it's right. Or, you know, you're pitted against those people and those people. It's like this. That is what's gotta go. Yeah, and that's like this big judgmental, like warring kind of mentality.

Speaker 49:36

Yeah. So it's promoted. So part of that is, you know, knowing what is it for you individually that makes or or uh not makes, but uh you look at these things, the criteria of a person, and put them in a category. And I understand that these categories have their uses as well, but you know, I we've been trained to believe that rich people are bad. And um, or I I'm not saying it right, but you know, it's like billionaires are bad. Like that that's a thing going on these days. And but how can anyone know? Because I mean, I'm not friends with any billionaires, so I really don't know what they're like.

Speaker 5 50:23

Yeah, I mean, and prejudice is just based on overgeneralization. Yes, and just like saying this whole group of people is bad, period. That's a giant overgeneralization, yeah.

Speaker 50:34

You know, and it's just if so, watching out for overgeneralization is a step.

Speaker 5 50:41

Well, it's a huge step if you can actually develop your mind into into a nuanced place, yeah, then things are not so simple anymore.

Speaker 50:50

I love nuance. Let me tell you, I being someone raised super, super strict, and there's good and bad, like everything was in a category, good or bad. And as in the last 10 years or 11 years now of um being in partnership with Monty, he's helped me. And now I'm reflecting back to him when he gets in the black and white state too. And so this nuance that is a mature emotional quotient right there to be able to embrace nuance and to know that even if you are uh dissecting or or or looking at something specific, that there's a good chance you're not seeing all the nuanced pieces.

Speaker 5 51:41

That's it. I mean, to actually be a nuanced thinker, you need a peaceful mind. Otherwise, because if your mind's upset, guess what? You have blinders on. Yeah. And because of cognitive dissonance, you don't want to look at things that don't align with your belief system. And if part of your belief system is all these people are bad, then you don't want to look at ways that they might not be bad. Right. So to be nuanced, you need you need to have like an uh kind of a more of a blank slate, just a peaceful mind state, and then you can see all the variables. Okay, those things they do, I I don't agree with that, but those things I do agree with, and boom boom boom, it's like this nuanced view of life, which is like really, really lacking these days. And I feel maybe it always has been.

Speaker 52:31

I feel like Western culture why it's lacking, is because we have been trained not to trust ourselves, and if we can learn to trust ourselves, yeah, we can be open to strangers and people we don't know because we trust ourselves to know what to do in a moment where we might need to do something. Yeah, but because we don't have that natural, like in a lot of the modalities that I work with, you expand the energy of the self, of the body, you know, the aura or however you want to call it. And this is your protective field because that protective field feels the other people before you do.

Speaker 4 53:13

Yeah.

Speaker 53:14

So if we have that healthy field around us, which is first of all created by being open, then we can navigate with more trust for ourselves, which gives us an open mind towards others.

Speaker 5 53:33

Yeah. And if we just don't buy all the propaganda that tries to keep us fighting amongst ourselves, right, or keep us closed and keep us fearing. Yeah, fearful, keep us angry.

Speaker 53:44

Yeah. And again, I j I just I feel so strongly that if humanity is shifting, yeah, of course there's a lot to fear because we're literally the mush in a cocoon right now. Well, there's always a we're a little vulnerable. I mean, you know, I mean, somebody could rip that cocoon open, the earth could get hit by a comet. Oh, right. You know, there's so much that could happen.

Speaker 5 54:09

Nuclear war.

Speaker 54:10

I mean, who knows? Hopefully not. But yeah, I'm saying natural. There could be natural problems. Viruses.

Speaker 5 54:17

Oh, wait, wait, you said natural. Oh, my bad.

Speaker 54:21

Anywho, what I want to say is that we are in a vulnerable time, and so being more and more aligned with how do I trust myself is the way to navigate and be open to the nuances of others so that we can possibly become a global community versus an individual fighting for existence.

Speaker 5 54:53

Yeah, well, that that's it. We need to just become a global community. And I mean, one one step in the right direction for me too is just to learn, you know, what what this life really is, and how I have the spark of the divine within me and within everybody else. And from that perspective, it's like, oh, okay. So when this body's done, this spark of the divine is gonna go somewhere else. Yeah, you know, so this is just like this tiny little chapter in the life of me, just this human body. And if I can have that perspective, then I don't take everything so seriously. Yeah. Because that's what we're trained. We're trained like YOLO, you only live once, and then you know, you gotta take everything really seriously. And those if you if you have enough toys, then you're the winner. You know, that's kind of like the yeah, I mean, but that's like that's ridiculous. That's immature. That's you know, I mean, if we really look at things from a mature kind of scientific perspective of you know, what is infinite time, and yeah, open-ended questions, open-ended questions, yeah. Well, open-ended and just like remain curious, remain curious, remain humble, and but perhaps even try on the hat of like something like life is more like a dream than than we realize. Yeah, you know, we're we're we get so caught up.

Speaker 56:22

Yeah, I feel like it's uh very strange feeling inside of me to think that life is just a dream or that everything's an illusion. Like sometimes I just get lost in the nuance.

Speaker 5 56:41

Well, I yeah, well, one way I frame it in my mind sometimes is I I just try and look at everything like it's a hologram.

Speaker 56:48

Right, that's what I'm talking about. Like, that's in some ways freaky.

Speaker 5 56:53

Well, it's different, yeah, but it's probably more aligned with physical reality than thinking everything is like solid, my body's solid, and this table's solid. And it's like, no, it's like everything's more of a hologram. There's more space than matter. Yep, that's everything. That's been proven at this point. Well, yeah. I mean, and just yeah. I mean, so there, I mean, there's a lot we don't know about reality.

Speaker 57:19

I feel like my safe place where I go when I start to freak out about life is just simply an illusion. Uh, I go to the body because whatever, it doesn't even matter what is true, is that I'm in this body right now. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know how long it lasts, I don't know where my soul goes. I don't know how many lifetimes I've been here, how many more I have to go. I don't know any of these things. All I know is that this is my body right now. And if I want to experience life as lighthearted as possible, I have to deal with the pain in my body, which for me I do qigong and yoga and breath work and meditation. Nice job. And I need these things to have a happier, more peaceful life. And and that's somatic presence. So the more somatically wise we get, the more it doesn't matter what we don't know. And we can just exist.

Speaker 5 58:29

Yeah, and just be for me, just being open to the idea that I don't know most things, you know. Yeah, that's like it's liberating. It's liberating and it's real.

Speaker 58:41

So I just want to thank you all for being here with us this month. We've been very dynamically sharing with you in this hour flu bye. So I just want to send y'all lots of peace, lots of curiosity. May you go forth in your body in this world, yes, as lighthearted and as curious as possible.

Speaker 5 59:09

Yeah, and find out ways to tune into that flow. And the more I believe the more we're in the flow, the more powerful we are. So let's let's explore that. Yeah, it's kind of fun.

Speaker 59:21

So for our WDRT listeners, we will talk with you next month. And for our podcast listeners, we are going to increase our shows to once a week. So keep your eye open next week for the next Mind Flow Radio. Peace and love. Also, for our podcast listeners, I want to put it out there that Monty and I shared our seven top skills and created a beautiful ebook. And uh you can now get this ebook.

Speaker 5 1:00:04

And it's free.

Speaker 1:00:05

Yep, on mindflowradio.life. Uh, we'd love you to join our community by downloading this book and practicing these skills with us. These are how our we live our lives, and we hope that you may want to experience that as well.

Speaker 5 1:00:23

Yeah, I would say it's a handy, there's some handy information relative to just getting into the flow.

Speaker 1:00:31

Absolutely. I am personally just so excited to share this with y'all because these are truly from our heart and how we actually try to live every day. And we created these compact skills to share with you so you can have them and you can join our community for free. So I hope you take us up on it.

Speaker 5 1:00:58

Yeah, I mean, and we're both mental health professionals and been in the field for a while, and this this is stuff that we work with all the time, including working on ourselves. That's the big challenge, right? But but it's something we engage with every day.

Speaker 1:01:14

Yeah. So take us up on it and also share with us what you think.

Speaker 5 1:01:19

Mindflowradio.

Speaker 1:01:23

Be well, y'all.