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Mindflow Radio: The Path is the Destination
Mindflow Radio #124: Quantum Future Introduction
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Welcome back to Mindflow Radio.
SPEAKER_02Mindflow Radio.
SPEAKER_01She's Jalen. And he's Monty. So buckle your seat belts and get ready to take a trip towards reality.
SPEAKER_02The quantum future?
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So today we are celebrating and sharing little stories of Monty's journey as the author of The Quantum Future. And uh I wanted to kind of hear how did you get inspired and at what point did you know it what you were doing? Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_01Well, I g I guess it all began when I was in the habit for a little while of just going to the coffee shop and writing poetry every morning. Okay. I that was, you know, two, three years ago, I think. And then so I did that, and then I was getting into the habit of like making diagrams and putting them up at a community center.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01So I was doing that pro, you know, engaging with that and enjoying that. I'm like, oh, this is cool. I like doing making diagrams that explain, you know, human behavior and life and spirituality and okay, etc. Or somewhat explain. You know, it's a different way of explaining things, right? Then blah blah blah blah blah. So I began with yeah, the poetry, then the diagrams, and I'm like, hey, this this could make a cool book if I just put this all together, and then I kind of filled it in with a bunch of essays about the different, you know, psychological therapeutic techniques that I've developed over the years, because those are valuable, I believe, and worth sharing. You know, so then I I got involved with writing a bunch of essays and and then yeah, it I don't know, it's this book has been interesting because for like more than a year I'm like, okay, it'll be finished next month.
SPEAKER_02I know, right?
SPEAKER_01That was a thing. It was gonna get finished in 2025, easy, I thought. And I just kept going at it, and by then I was getting dedicated to it, and I was adding adding writing to my morning routine. You know, so I have a morning routine, I go outside, I do tai chi, I do some chanting and meditation stuff, and then after that, I would force myself to sit and write for not even that long, like 20 minutes or something. But so then there was that stage of it, and I'm like, I'll get this done in two weeks, you know, and but just kept going and going and going and going, and now it's like more than halfway through 2026, and it's finally come out. Yeah, you know, so it's been um quite the experience um creating this piece, and the book is designed to it's it's it's designed to be artistic, you know, a lot of it you know, there are a lot of and and very human-made. I mean, I created a lot of just handmade diagrams to support various thoughts, various um concepts, and then uh do you have a diagram that pops to mind that you could describe? Um, well, you know, there's the mind or there's the mind state diagram. Okay. Which um, you know, I go through the five different types of mind states and how well what what each of them um means for us. And you know, the ideally this book is designed to help give people agency over their minds, over their over their patterns of thinking. We can have agency, we can have power over our I mean and to be able to like watch our thoughts and understand, okay, well, these thoughts are actually not productive. These thoughts are productive, and then also how do I find stillness amidst all amidst all this like information overload that I'm dealing with, etc. And um okay, so I I will talk about one um diagram, and it's it won't be the mindset one, it'll be the just it kind of describes spiritual reality. Okay, all right. So there's a picture of a uh a person with like a uh like a kind of like a star or a little shining light inside of them, and that's their soul. Okay, and it says, You are here now, this is where we are now, and then there's a timeline, and there's a line ahead on top of the person, and on top of that line is spiritual reality, on the bottom of that line is material reality, right? And so we're in material reality right now, the person's underneath that line, but then in the near future, our souls go up to spiritual reality, and uh I put um our souls up there, and you will be here soon, and you were here soon in the past, you know, in spiritual reality, and then just the I uh I have something up way up top in spiritual reality that is like the Tao or the Great Mother or the God Force, whatever you want to call that, and anyway, that's a diagram. I don't know if it's it's kind of harder to understand when you don't like look at yeah, but just kind of like uh oh yeah, just a way of um amplifying, I believe, um productive thoughts in my mind is through like visualizing it through diagrams, and so I tried to share that with with others. And I've I've been making diagrams for years and years and years.
SPEAKER_02Your first book had some diagrams, but they weren't from you.
SPEAKER_01We we had somebody draw them for us, but now in the age of AI, I decided to make the diagrams myself, yeah. And it's uh like a very human, a very, very human-made book, and it's pretty evident. And um, I've kind of I've combined like the informational poetry, the essays, the diagrams. Uh, there's a couple short stories in there. Nice, yeah. Two short stories, and um some stream of consciousness um writing as well. So I've mixed it all together and it makes for I believe hopefully an interesting and informative read.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. Yeah, I so it began with the uh coffee shop experiences, and then I want to hear more about these diagrams you're putting at the community center. Are they in the book or did they just inspire some of a few of them are in the book?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, I I yeah, I it was just really I was trying to put a create a diagram a week for the community center.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because I thought it was just an interesting way of communicating, yeah, for sure, because people put flyers up or events or but this is it didn't lead to anything, it was just to look at.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, right, right. There there was the the whole purpose was just to like um maybe inspire people to to think about things a little differently, I guess. And yeah, I mean the diagram, I mean, I have so many diagrams at this point that could be that could be a big book in itself, which you know, I'm thinking, huh, maybe in the future, I don't know. Yeah, and but for now, the quantum future is is completed, and I'm excited. We we ordered you know some copies and gonna get it in some stores and hopefully do some really interesting interviews. And um, I want to do I wanna follow this with like a lecture series as well. That's another another aspect of the whole AI thing, is I think lectures like person, live lectures are gonna be a thing again, you know, because people are gonna crave human interaction. I mean, now we're looking at at the internet, you don't know what's real and what's not real, and AI is just gonna get better and better at that. Yeah, so how are we gonna really know what's what? Oh, face-to-face discussion. Yeah, that's a lecture. I think live music is really gonna blossom too, because that's gonna be a thing that uh people are really gonna crave.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I know for me personally, I've found that AI becoming so good at videos and people getting to create whatever they imagine with AI, which I think in a way that is giving agency to people because people who weren't artists can now say, I see this picture, and then AI can create it. And that, in a sense, is empowering. But as the receiver, I want to know it's AI, and there's this issue that's kind of the regulation of AI is very sparse, if at all. And so if it's AI music, you may not know. If it's AI pictures, you may not know. If it's an AI article, you may not know.
SPEAKER_01Exactly, you know.
SPEAKER_02And I feel like what you're saying is absolutely true. And there's for me, I don't even doom scroll like I used to, because why? It's probably all AI anyway.
SPEAKER_01It's true.
SPEAKER_02So a lot of it and the way that these major social media platforms are working, it's mostly ads, and most of those are AI. So there's yeah, you know, I feel like I just don't even want to play the game anymore.
SPEAKER_01No, yeah, it's and the the the reality is is AI is just gonna be getting better and better and better at fooling people, right? I feel like I can identify it at this point, but I don't know, like a year from now, it's gonna be a whole different ball game. Probably they're gonna so yeah, let's just get together, let's hang out more, let's go to drum circles, right? Let's let's get together and drum. How about that as like a human experience?
SPEAKER_02I think human experiences are gonna become more and more valuable and priceless in a sense, you know, because we we are and that's what I'm finding with it's just easier to put my phone down now because I'm just so disheartened by the whole situation.
SPEAKER_01I definitely take breaks from my phone too regularly. Yeah. And you know, besides I mean, it might it might force us to just get more, you know, to communicate face to face with each other more often. Right. And and maybe that's a good opportunity, or now is a good opportunity for us to actually develop a better relationship with ourselves.
SPEAKER_02Right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Instead of just like overdosing on information and and getting all upset, basically.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_01Let's like let's focus on like watching our thoughts, yeah, and being the effective director, director of our minds. It's like our minds are like an orchestra. And if I'm the director of my mind, I can be like, okay, drums, calm down a little bit over there, and come on up, violins, and this is the pace we're going right now. Okay, let's, you know, just staying in charge of that. Yeah, that's what agency is. Yeah, that is agency. And if we don't have that ability, which nobody really teaches us, by the way, if we don't have that ability to be the director of our minds, then we're just we we lack in agency, we lack in freedom, especially if we're just connected with our phone all the time. Then just so the this is an opportunity for us to back off of the information overload and for us to develop to develop better relationships with each other and with ourselves.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And I feel that it ties into the quantum future and just that this is it's a pretty deep book, but it's a light read, if that makes sense. There's some really deep concepts, but they're um written kind of lighthearted because it's a poem or it's a diagram, you know. Yeah, right. And so I feel like it's a great opportunity to keep it lighthearted and yet be willing to contemplate deeply. Yeah. And I think that, you know, the the way that uh you created it and really decided against having AI help in any way, shape, or form. I thought that was really interesting. And and also seeing this human-made uh movement happening now. Yes, you know, and I think that's really interesting. It is because you know, if it's it's like the organic movement, how you had to pay more to be organic, you know, and then you have to be certified, and somebody has to come out and check your fields and yada yada yada. And now it's like, well, nobody's admitting that they're doing AI. So now we're gonna, you know, certify human-made, you know? And it's just such an interesting cost less.
SPEAKER_01If it's just us hanging out, you know, people are hanging out, gathering together.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you might not have to pay to be certified, but at some point you might, you know, you never know the way things are going right now.
SPEAKER_01I'm sure some people try and capitalize off it. Sure, sure. I don't know. It's it's maybe it's time for us to put our resources into each other too, rather than spending, you know, oh, I'm gonna give Meta a thousand dollars to promote my book, you know. It's like, no, I don't, I don't want to do that. I'm not going to do that, you know. I'd rather spend my resources on, you know, just yeah, connecting with people. And yeah, okay, I'll spend, I'll spend a hundred dollars driving to Madison and giving a lecture, you know, or whatever. Yeah. It's just living, living with that um that concept that human connectedness is is vital to our it is, you know, our evolution. It maybe it maybe this is the time to evolve. I do believe that.
SPEAKER_02And I think that AI is pushing us that way. It is you know, I don't think it's I think it's an accident.
SPEAKER_00But I don't think so.
SPEAKER_02Well, I I think that in a way it's an accident because you know, AI is taking off so strong, and then being the humans behind it are lacking integrity and not admitting things. So then it's like this mis mistake, right? Because instead of being integral and saying, this is AI, you know, then people are like, wait, what's it nobody's telling me what's actually going on.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_02So then the accident is then we're kind of asking the question more is this AI or is this AI? Oh, this says human-made, you know, so then it's it's kind of creating uh a more of a longing for transparency and connection, yeah, and we're tribal being.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, we are tribal.
SPEAKER_02The accident of AI exploding and then people thinking they can just trick people, and that's okay. Right, yeah, is is like actually we're going to focus more on supporting fellow humans, yeah, and being authentic, yeah, supporting, being benevolent towards each other.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's like and ourselves, yeah. And yeah, no, I mean, but as far as like a mistake, I think it's fairly likely that like the divine, the Tao, the great mother, sure, like knew all this was coming, sure, and maybe it might be there to help us. Yeah, you know, I believe it's just like if we we have we have to learn how to harness it appropriately. Like our friend um Vicky the other day, shout out to Vicky. Um was saying how AI can help um identify breast cancer like years before.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, there's great years.
SPEAKER_01So there's yeah, there are there are ways that this can really, really, really help us, but there are also ways it can really, really hurt us, or just confuse us. No, it can hurt us, okay. Potentially, but so we get to decide now where are we gonna pour our energy? Are we gonna pour our energy into evolving as a human race, or are we gonna pour our energy into fighting? You know that that that whole concept of if I want to change the culture, how do I do it? Do I fight the old culture or do I just create a new culture? And just kind of like turn my back on the old culture and like no, this is the new culture, everybody, you know, that's an unknown. A bunch of people are creating, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Right. It's this very unknown. I as being somebody who likes creating things, I created some very big things, and then I hit this wall of now the way to go about it is to pay Meta, you know, it to advertise it. And then I chalked the whole thing. Yeah, even though it took me over a year to create it, yeah, I was like, oh no, I am not playing this game. No, and so now I'm just kind of standing back and going, what is the future way of connecting with each other? Because it hasn't really shown itself yet.
SPEAKER_01Maybe, yeah, right. Just gatherings. I mean, here in Viroquo, we do have some like gatherings happening, you know, people getting together and just talking. And uh that's cool, yeah. And we just wanna keep moving in that direction and just uh benevolence. I think if we're actually able to be benevolent towards ourselves and to each other, and to everyone, actually, I mean, because all benevolence, what benevolence means is I wish well for others, and I hope that everyone can learn from their mistakes and evolve. That's and I I hope that for everyone, because if we all evolve, guess what? We're all gonna be living a much more fulfilling and meaningful existence, right? Instead of fighting against each other, which is like kind of trendy now, you know, and it's like the the powers that be promote that, right? The fighting, the arguing, the hatred, and but if we can really find that benevolence, and oh, I just wish well for others, and I'm talking about myself too. I wish well for myself, and I just really hope I can learn from my mistakes and evolve. And if we can all not all, but if we can just move in that direction culturally, everything's gonna be a lot easier and actually a lot more fun. Because you know, creating something is a lot more fun than destroying shit. I'd much rather be creating a new, like a village, right? Creating a village than destroying a village. Okay. You know, I mean, and yeah, it's just like the I mean, and Buddha talks about that in the Lotus Sutra, you know, support the good, pour your intention, your energy into the good, and you energize that. That's the really the bottom line is we're way more magical than we realize. Magic is real. We create stuff through our thinking, through our intention. Let's create cool stuff that we can all enjoy. Yeah, we can all eat good food, we can all have shelter, we can all just you know take care of each other. Yeah, each of us find our dharma and you know, move forward.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Amen.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So The Quantum Future by Lamont P. McFarn, LPC is out uh pretty much anywhere.
SPEAKER_01Well, yeah, I mean you can get it online, and I'm gonna get it in some little stores, yep.
SPEAKER_02And if uh you're out there and you have a studio or a space where you would like Monty to come and speak about this, get a hold of us. Uh, we just want to say thank you to all our listeners. Thank you for being here. Thank you for being curious about what we have to share.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I want to just uh note about like the lectures that I I want to give, you know, they're gonna be about mind skills, partly, you know, that people can apply, they can use them throughout the day in and become more psychologically resilient and balanced. And so that that's gonna be like the the focus of the lectures, you know, just some really effective psychological um hacks, nice, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and so like, follow, subscribe on whatever platform you're listening to. This share with a friend. That sometimes sharing is caring in the best way, you know. Sometimes people have no idea that this is out there. They're as we were saying before, there's so much information, it's a little overwhelming. So getting something from a friend is a way to uh get through the chaos and have a clean. Oh, my friend says this is good. I'll check it out.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and check out the Quantum Future book if you want.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's it's online, I know that.
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SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, that's valuable ebook.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, mindflow radio.life. And uh any last points you'd like to make to well if anybody would want to do therapy with kind of work with me or um we could do that as well.
SPEAKER_01But that's on mindflow.life. Yeah. They want to work one-on-one.
SPEAKER_02That'd be with either of us, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so have a great week. And we'll be starting to dive into the little details of the book over the next weeks. And we'll we hope you have a great week. And peace and love. Peace and love. We'll talk with you soon.